Uncertainty has become SA’s new normal, with Cabinet reshuffles, state capture allegations and potential downgrades looming. Stephen Gunnion sits down with former finance minister Pravin Gordhan. What can South Africans do to change this narrative for the better? Gordhan says mobile activism that leads to action in the streets is a start. But what if the rot stems from the very top? Gordhan joined Gunnion on News Leader to discuss where to next for SA.

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