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In this podcast, Sam Mkokeli and associates interview former deputy finance minister Mcebisi Jonas, who now chairs mobile phone company MTN, about SA's often dysfunctional politics, and the way to create a prosperous future.
Here, Jonas examines why the ANC has been unable to transform from a liberation movement to a modern political party, and how this threatens SA’s future.
He shares his ideas with The Xchange on what needs to be done to create a thriving economy.
The Xchange is a platform for social dialogue established by journalist Sam Mkokeli.
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